Indecision

[rain_gryphon]

A month ago I was a solid supporter of George Bush. I really did think the man's basic human decency would win through on the marriage issue. I fucked up there. Now I'm faced with two equally unpalatable candidates. Bush, who seems to think that civil rights are only for certain Americans, and Kerry, who wants to have UN approval before we defend ourselves. :P

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It's always the lesser of two evils.

[oliver-otter.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty disgusted with Bush over this too... Though I'm glad at least he left open the idea of civil unions.

I still look at it from the perspective of which candidate is more likely to do actual damage to the nation. The odds of getting a constitutional amendment through is small; even people who might vote against gay marriage at the legislative level may think twice about something as serious as an amendment. And if the amendment has a ghost of a chance of passing, a lot of state laws and referenda almost certainly would pass anyway. I mean, if the People's Republik of Kalifornia, of all places, can pass a referendum against gay marriage, where won't one pass?

It was nothing but a politically safe move for Bush, I think. Very few of his supporters would change and vote against him because he said he wants this amendment. A lot of the religious nuts might vote against him if he didn't say he wanted it. And most of the people who are in favor of gay marriage wouldn't vote for him anyway, so no loss if he pisses them off. And there's little chance of it coming to be anyway.

Re: It's always the lesser of two evils.

[xolo.livejournal.com]

Well, I'd like to beleive that, but who else are they gonna vote for? There's no evangelical right-wing analogue to Ralphie the Retard*. Bush has those votes effectively pocketed.

I'd been so enamoured of Bush these past few years because it looked like he was engaged in bringing back the old Republican party, the one that concerned itself with keeping the United States strong and free, and kept out of people's private lives. This latest development is disappointing, at the very least. I'll wait and see how hard he pushes this, I suppose.


*That's a small mercy, one supposes.

Re: It's always the lesser of two evils.

[oliver-otter.livejournal.com]

The religious nuts have proven they're willing to shoot themselves in the foot and not vote at all if their whims aren't catered to. You're right that they won't vote for Kerry (or Nader), but they might not vote for Bush either. It's not a bad strategy most of the time, given how much political patronage it's gotten them, though it can be suicidal at times.

I'm hoping that, sound bite bitten, he'll let the topic fade away now. I think that was always the strategy. He doesn't have enough congressional support for an amendment anyway, and he has to know it.

Re: It's always the lesser of two evils.

[jnlldxn.livejournal.com]

He's been good in some ways.

I don't see what the problem is with the marriage thing. Good way to piss off alot of voters. >:O